INTERVIEW: Emmy-Winning Makeup Artist Raven Discusses Her Journey Through Drag

Painted with Raven is a competitors collection on Wow Offers Plus in its 2nd period. Hosted by Ru Paul’s Emmy-successful make-up artist and proper-hand wo[man] Raven, the sequence is all about generating wonderful operate with up-and-coming makeup artists.

Drag queens are like superheroes with magic formula identities powering their wonderful costumes. In Raven’s circumstance, her not-so-top secret identity is David Petruschin, born in Southern California. Currently, Raven’s flown much from her desert property and traveled around the globe, building amazing appears together the way. She’s become good friends with the queen of all drag queens, Ru Paul, and now has her very own series, Painted with Raven, that opens the doorway for other makeup artists to clearly show their competencies.

PopAxiom spoke with Raven about starting to be a make-up artist and likely from David to Raven.


“I know how to simply click the url. I ignore that the digital camera is on. I really do not have my microphone all set. I’m nonetheless mastering.” We had complex issues setting up, all on my stop.

Raven’s story starts in Victorville, California. “When I Was a kid, I loved enjoying with make-up. I loved undertaking my sister’s makeup. I was a boy in the 80s and was not intended to use that. Almost everything was quite — blue is for boys, pink is for women. You only noticed a person carrying makeup since he was in a rock band.”

“I realized I required to do it,” she claims. “I’d look at my mother putting on make-up. Whenever just about anything arrived up like Dynasty, the magnificence and makeup, it was so enthralling.”

In solution, young Raven “started playing with it myself. In substantial faculty, I would do my friend’s makeup. So I knew I would like to be a make-up artist.”

“It was not until finally I begun dabbling in glamour boy make-up, just ahead of I acquired into drag, I imagined, I want to do my make-up,” she describes. “I like performing my own. So it went from drag to finding on Drag Race to portray the Queen of Drag Ru Paul genuinely rapid.”

Raven doesn’t get for granted the wild modify in her lifestyle. “I went from wanting to do make-up to painting the particular person who motivated me to start out undertaking drag and undertaking my make-up.”

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Journey Into Drag

What was the studying system like for getting a drag queen? “I truly feel like I’m even now understanding. I truly feel like people really should usually be understanding. You really should constantly download new application or enhance to a new version of yourself.”

“I bear in mind heading out to golf equipment before I started off accomplishing drag, and I liked watching drag exhibits the audience responded and how attractive and glamorous it all appeared.” But again in time, matters have been diverse. For instance, “… the sources there are now did not exist. You could not find tights in a bunch of unique colors, cosmetics, wigs, costumes, or jewelry. You experienced to be very self-adequate and be in a position to employ what was inside your radius.”

Raven’s early shows as a backup dancer have been section of the finding out procedure. “I would enjoy what all people was carrying out and preferred to do it. But it wasn’t till I observed Chad Michaels, who received All-Stars 1 … I knew which is what I wanted to do. In the display, I viewed him go from Celine Deion, then about 20 minutes later on, he arrived out as Cher, which is his point. Twenty minutes later on, he arrived out as Marilyn Manson.”

“So, on my journey, it is been distinctive variations of myself,” Raven points out all those versions of herself. “There was the gothic dim princess model, the glamazon, the club kitty edition. I truly feel like I have all that stuff, and I can pull that out as soon as in a when. I feel like I’m not just 1 kind of queen but a tiny bit of almost everything.”

Raven’s philosophy for flexibility is easy. “Why not? We’re enjoying gown up. So why not be nearly anything you want to be? You are given this overall body, and on formal papers, you have a particular name, but if you can invest a pair of hours dressed up embellished as one thing else, it’s fun, it’s liberating.”

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Turning out to be Raven

“There’s not much of a distinction,” Raven claims about herself and the person powering the mask. “It’s a minor little bit of a character. There are distinct means I have my hands and act and wander. It’s an extension of who I am. Ru often claims, ‘drag reveals who you are.’ There’s that tiny bit of a diva or a bitch or old girl inside of you that when you get in it, it arrives out, and you exude that. I experience that Raven is not a person point she’s anything.”

But there is a ritual to bringing Raven to existence. “The system is the invoking of the spirit. I like to give myself 4 hours to get completely ready. I really do not necessarily will need it, but I just like that. I get my time. I do a minimal this and sit back again a minute alternatively of feeling rushed. I can feel about issues. I have a method for the way I do my makeup. I adore the system of having into it.”

“It’s normally laying correct under the floor,” she suggests about all of us and that liberated change ego. “Once you put on individuals lashes and substantial heels,” she snaps, “it arrives ideal out. I’ve noticed even the straightest of men place on the costume and makeup, and there is a tiny ‘swish’ in the action. Drag presents you a sense of empowerment.”

Wrapping Up

Raven’s acquired a lengthy listing of [super]heroes. “There are so numerous greats. Madonna has often been. Cher, Diana Ross, Tina Turner, Liza Minnelli, Judy Garland, all of the greats.”

“The reason that these persons are the gay icons a great deal of folks say they are,” she states about the tremendous-record, “is mainly because they are drag. They were being putting up all of this gaudy stuff, lashes, heels, makeup to go out and do these exhibits that built a lot of drag queens say, ‘I want to do that.’ So to be someone that many others want to impersonate, I say, would make you legendary.”

Raven’s inspiration attracts “… from the 20s, 50s, 60s, eras from prolonged in the past. You seem at them and know what period it is because it is so unique. Every thing was so polished, and it’s come around again. The inflow of the attractiveness field where by now absolutely everyone is executing a small bit of contour, emphasize, lashes, and lipstick.”

“Because we went through a spell where by it was just sweatpants, sweatshirts, and trucker caps for everybody,” she reminds us, though not disparagingly. “Not that it was lazy, it was not that minimal added the place you see every lady donning lashes, even adult men. People today are going out into the entire world and have bought by themselves a few of very little trinkets they put on.”

It is been a person dynamic journey from mere mortal to drag queen. “I went from getting a stifled child increasing up in the desert thinking this is what the rest of my existence would be like to my early twenties realizing there’s a full planet out there. I’ve develop into the make-up artist for the variety just one drag queen in the environment and contend on her present. I’ve been supplied my have present now much too!”

“I needed to vacation the planet and show the world what I do,” she provides with a massive smile, “I’ve been ready to see the way diverse cultures do drag. All these items we do here but in their way.”

A lot more is to occur from Raven as she considers the upcoming. “I think the upcoming step would be collaborating with anyone on a make-up line.”

“Painted with Raven year 2 on Wow Provides Plus” is where you can come across Raven for now. “It’s an remarkable experience. Eight wonderful artists from all above the country. Each individual brings their knowledge and finding out from the other along the way. It is an awesome matter to enjoy.”

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